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Posted: 11 August 2013 07:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 136 ]
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jul/31/kobach-plan-could-produce-two-kinds-voters/

And then… there’s the nutcases like Kobach.  The Supreme Court has struck down the Arizona law putting extreme restrictions on registering to vote.  That SCOTUS decision also invalidates Kobach’s Kansas Law.  So… now Kobach wants two classes of voters.  If the SCOTUS says you can vote in national elections, so be it.  However, Kobach wants to have as few “browns skins” as possible clutter the local ballot boxes.  After all, we wouldn’t want to see anyone be able to mount a competitive challenge to the Koch candidate.

This is a relatively new tact.  States are exerting their power to govern as individual entities, thumbing their noses at the Federal ‘gubmint’.  So… exclude all you can from voting in state and local elections.  That keeps the power brokers in place in Kansas. 

Dave must be a real fan of Kobach…..

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Posted: 12 August 2013 02:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 137 ]
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Randall Baughman - 11 August 2013 07:11 AM

Interesting read.

Federalists once desired exactly what you desire, Dave.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/opinion/the-tea-partys-path-to-irrelevance.html

“Every Federalist in Congress save John Quincy Adams voted against the Louisiana Purchase. Adams, too, saw that New England, the cradle of the revolution, had become a small part of a new nation. Change “being found in nature,” he wrote stoically, “cannot be resisted.”

But resist is precisely what the Federalists did. Fearing that Irish, English and German newcomers would vote for the Jeffersonian Republicans, they argued — unsuccessfully — for excluding immigrants from voting or holding office, and pushed to extend the period of naturalization from 5 to 14 years.

Leading Federalists even plotted to “establish a separate government in New England,” as William Plumer, a senator from New Hampshire, later conceded. (The plot collapsed only when the proposed military leader, Aaron Burr, killed the proposed political guide, Alexander Hamilton.)”

 

Randall we’re talking about illegal aliens not immigrants.

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Posted: 12 August 2013 02:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 138 ]
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Larry Williams - 11 August 2013 07:53 AM

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jul/31/kobach-plan-could-produce-two-kinds-voters/

And then… there’s the nutcases like Kobach.  The Supreme Court has struck down the Arizona law putting extreme restrictions on registering to vote.  That SCOTUS decision also invalidates Kobach’s Kansas Law.  So… now Kobach wants two classes of voters.  If the SCOTUS says you can vote in national elections, so be it.  However, Kobach wants to have as few “browns skins” as possible clutter the local ballot boxes.  After all, we wouldn’t want to see anyone be able to mount a competitive challenge to the Koch candidate.

This is a relatively new tact.  States are exerting their power to govern as individual entities, thumbing their noses at the Federal ‘gubmint’.  So… exclude all you can from voting in state and local elections.  That keeps the power brokers in place in Kansas. 

Dave must be a real fan of Kobach…..

 

You related to Randall,we’re talking about illegal aliens,not immigrants

 

Illegal Immigrants Are Voting in American Elections

In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3
percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter
registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court
were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of
registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning
presiden­tial vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Cen­sus Bureau
estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the
U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting
cases in Florida than in any other state.

Florida is not unique. Thousands of non-citizens are registered to vote in
some states, and tens if not hundreds of thousands in total may be present
on the voter rolls nationwide. These numbers are significant: Local
elections are often decided by only a handful of votes, and even national
elections have likely been within the margin of the number of non-citizens
ille­gally registered to vote.


http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=691

 

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Posted: 12 August 2013 06:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 139 ]
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Again, you miss the point, Dave.  There was no such thing as an illegal in those days but their REASONS for hating immigrants were the same.  It was the comparison of the Federalist party and their rapid descent down the porcelain vortex to your splinter of the Koch party,  that I proposed you take a look at.

But, I understand.  If you lost your hatred, you’d have nothing at all. 

As for that 3 percent of jury-duty voting illegals… horsesht.  Pure propaganda for the rubes.  PURE horsesht.

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Posted: 13 August 2013 04:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 140 ]
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UP TO THREE PERCENT OH MY GOD THE HUMANITY

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Posted: 13 August 2013 07:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 141 ]
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Randall Baughman - 12 August 2013 06:23 AM

Again, you miss the point, Dave.  There was no such thing as an illegal in those days but their REASONS for hating immigrants were the same.  It was the comparison of the Federalist party and their rapid descent down the porcelain vortex to your splinter of the Koch party,  that I proposed you take a look at.

But, I understand.  If you lost your hatred, you’d have nothing at all. 

As for that 3 percent of jury-duty voting illegals… horsesht.  Pure propaganda for the rubes.  PURE horsesht.

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“There was no such thing as an illegal in those days”


That’s true Randall and we’re talking about illegal aliens so why did you bring it up?


Objecting to 11 million illegal aliens breaking our immigration laws to get here is not being hateful


What do you base your turning a blind eye to when 11 million illegal aliens break our immigration laws to get here.


And what do you tell the millions of immigrants that are waiting in their own country to enter here the legal way?


So I’m to assume that if you decide to go to the movie where there’s a long line to get in, and 10 people walk up and step in front of you,

then you would give them a hug and ask if they want you to buy their Popcorn and drinks. Is that about the way it would happen?

Randall you can’t refute my posts with facts of your own so you use the catch phrase “Propaganda” Try something new that one is wore out!

 

More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light

Congressional Democrats still want the group to be eligible for federal
money.


Democrats are split on how to deal with Acorn, the liberal “community
organizing” group that deployed thousands of get-out-the-vote workers last
election. State and city Democratic officials—who’ve been contending with
its many scandals—are moving against it. Washington Democrats are still
sweeping Acorn abuses under a rug.

On Monday, Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las
Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter
registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las
Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn’s forms “are clearly fraudulent.” On
Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees
with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year’s
general election.

Acorn spokesman Scott Levenson calls the Nevada criminal complaint
“political grandstanding” and says that any problems were the actions of an
unnamed “bad employee.” But Catherine Cortez Masto, Nevada’s Democratic
Attorney General, told the Las Vegas Sun that Acorn itself is named in the
criminal complaint. She says that Acorn’s training manuals “clearly detail,
condone and . . . require illegal acts,” such as requiring its workers to
meet strict voter-registration targets to keep their jobs.

Other Democrats on the ground have complaints. Fred Voight, deputy election
commissioner in Philadelphia, protested after Acorn (according to the
registrar of voters and his own investigation) submitted at least 1,500
fraudulent registrations last fall. “This has been going on for a number of
years,” he told CNN in October. St. Louis Democrat Matthew Potter, the
city’s deputy elections director, had similar complaints.

Elsewhere, Washington state prosecutors fined Acorn $25,000 after several
employees were convicted of voter registration fraud in 2007. The group
signed a consent decree with King County (Seattle), requiring it to beef up
its oversight or face criminal prosecution. In the 2008 election, Acorn’s
practices led to investigations, some ongoing, in 14 other states.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html

 

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Posted: 13 August 2013 07:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 142 ]
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http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations/

“Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes. What a McCain-Palin Web ad calls “voter fraud” is actually voter registration fraud. Several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far shows they faked forms to get paid for work they didn’t do, not to stuff ballot boxes.”

Keep those panties wedged up in there, Dave.  It seems to be what you live for.

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Posted: 14 August 2013 05:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 143 ]
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Randall Baughman - 13 August 2013 07:46 AM

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations/

“Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes. What a McCain-Palin Web ad calls “voter fraud” is actually voter registration fraud. Several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far shows they faked forms to get paid for work they didn’t do, not to stuff ballot boxes.”

Keep those panties wedged up in there, Dave.  It seems to be what you live for.

 

You’re in denial Randall,not surprised though!

Please don’t use that” Propaganda” word ,its getting old. lol

 

NBC2 Investigates: Voter fraud


Posted: Feb 02, 2012 1:34 PM CST Updated: Feb 02, 2012 5:32 PM CST

By Andy Pierrotti, NBC2 Investigator


Two elections supervisors are taking action after an NBC2 investigation
uncovers flawed record keeping and human error allowing people who are not
citizens of the United States to vote.

No one knows how widespread this problem is, because county election
supervisors have no way to track non-citizens who live here.

So NBC2 did something election officials never thought to do, and found them
on our own.

“I vote every year,” Hinako Dennett told NBC2.

The Cape Coral resident is not a US citizen, yet she’s registered to vote.

NBC2 found Dennett after reviewing her jury excusal form. She told the Clerk
of Court she couldn’t serve as a juror because she wasn’t a U.S. citizen.

We found her name, and nearly a hundred others like her, in the database of
Florida registered voters.

Naples resident Yvonne Wigglesworth is also a not a citizen, but is
registered to vote. She claims she doesn’t know how she got registered.

“I have no idea. I mean, how am I supposed to know.”

Records show Wigglesworth voted six times in elections dating back eleven
years.

“I know you cannot vote before you become a citizen, so I never tried to do
anything like that,” Samuel Lincoln said.

He isn’t a U.S. citizen either, but the Jamaican national says he doesn’t
know how he ended up registered to vote.

“It’s their mistake, not mine,” said Lincoln.

We obtained a copy of his 2007 voter registration application. It’s clearly
shows he marked U.S. citizen.

“This is under oath, that document, they are attesting that it is true and
by falsifying, it’s a third degree felony,” said Tim Durham, Collier
County’s chief elections supervisor.

County supervisors of elections tell me they have no way to verify
citizenship. Under the 1992 Motor Voter Law, they’re not required to ask for
proof.

 

Read rest of story below:

 

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/16662854/2012/02/02/nbc2-investigates-voter-fraud

 

 

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Posted: 14 August 2013 05:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 144 ]
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Please stop posting the same yootoobs and “TV station” garbage, Dave.  It’s getting old.  LOL.

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Posted: 14 August 2013 06:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 145 ]
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Randall Baughman - 14 August 2013 05:35 AM

Please stop posting the same yootoobs and “TV station” garbage, Dave. 

It’s getting old.  LOL.

 

 

Randall trying to deny it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, no matter how hard you try.


Now stop Tap Dancing and man up with the facts to refute my post!! (If you can) lol

 

Fred Astaire & Ginger Rogers - Let Yourself Go


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1FjlVsZ-mk&feature=related

 


Definition of tap-dance around


Tap-Dance around

 
  ****** to evade a question.******

   
by WalterGR, Sacramento, CA, USA, Sep 21 2009 (Edit definition)

 

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/definition+of/tap-dance+around


Waiting…............

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Posted: 14 August 2013 06:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 146 ]
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I’ve spent 10 pages “refuting” the same posts, posted over and over and over.

You’ve got a brown-skinned cob up you fact-factory and you love to bounce up and down on it… apparently constantly.. so as to keep those panties wedged up tight.

There’s no talking sense to you.  You’ve got sht for brains.  LOL

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Randall Baughman - 14 August 2013 06:29 AM

I’ve spent 10 pages “refuting” the same posts, posted over and over and over.

You’ve got a brown-skinned cob up you fact-factory and you love to bounce up and down on it… apparently constantly.. so as to keep those panties wedged up tight.

There’s no talking sense to you.  You’ve got sht for brains.  LOL

 


Your feet getting sore??

 

Illegal Voting

The non-citizen electorate.

By Hans A. von Spakovsky


    Amid all the talk of new voters becoming involved in the election,
hopefully one group of voters will not vote in November - non-citizens, many
of whom are illegally registered to vote all over the country, particularly
in the southwest. Although there is no reliable method to determine the
exact number registered aliens, there is evidence that this is a significant
and growing problem.


- Hans A. von Spakovsky served as a member of the Federal Election
Commission and as counsel to the assistant attorney general for civil rights
at the U.S. Department of Justice. His new study on “The Threat of
Non-Citizen Voting” is available at http://www.heritage.org.

 


http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OThkOTVkMjA5M2ZkM2Y3ZmNhYTZiOGU0MTJiMzIyZjA=

 

The only refuting you’ve done of my facts is to whine “It’s propaganda,It’s propaganda. lol

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Posted: 14 August 2013 07:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 148 ]
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uh-huh.  The Heritage Foundation.  Rube Propaganda Central.  LOL

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